A big welcome to my Divine blogging friend… the magnificent Debra King, whom I was delighted to meet a few years ago here on WordPress and have since spent some quality time reading Debra’s journey, understanding the meaning of life on her blog ptero9, as she dives deep within to explore the waters of the mind… of life… and discover her own answer to the question Who AM I.
Debra loves the writings and teachings of James Hillman who was a student of Carl Jung, but ventured far beyond the Jung psychology and created a rich and magical mixture of mythology, philosophy and literature, to help better understand the soul and human condition, naming it Archetypal Psychology. Hillman never had answers, instead his writings and teachings inspired people to question and discover their own answers.
It continues to be a joy to read Debra’s own beautiful expressions of her exploration and theory about life… and how she leaves everything open-ended… free for the reader’s mind to stir, to inspire their creative juices to flow with their own resonance… encouraging everyone to experience life in their own sweet way.
Debra’s writing is a contemplative practice that brings her deeper into the sacred silence of All That Is, keeping her balanced, joyful and energetic to enjoy her great outdoor life with her family… including five cats in the Pacific North West of USA and travelling far to support her baseball team… the Mets of New York City.
Back in 2010 when Debra first began blogging, she wrote ‘Less than Zero‘ and questions consciousness:
‘Can we really claim the title of the most conscious being in the universe? Can intelligence come from non-intelligence or lesser intelligence? Is there nothing besides human consciousness that knows, in the sense that we know, that we’re alive? I find that so incredibly hard to believe. How can life come from nothing? What is the drive, the spark that brings the world into being? I am no scientist, but I have never heard a satisfactory explanation for how it is that I am here, and know I am here.’
AND 8 years later IAM pleased for her to join us today to describe her feelings on Consciousness VS Artificial Intelligence.
Sentience and Sensibility
Thank you Barbara, for the invitation to guest blog on the topic of AI and consciousness. I am grateful.
Here we go!
Before entertaining any ideas about artificially intelligent machines becoming conscious, first we should consider what we mean by both consciousness and intelligence. For our existing ideas about what it means to be conscious to be considered, and how, if at all, intelligence differs from consciousness, some attempt at definition and distinction between the two might be helpful.
Firstly, I claim no expertise, either in AI or neurological sciences. All I have, like many of us, is experience and reflection on our most primary human condition of being.
The word, “conscious” is relatively new in its usage to the English language. Its roots:
late 16th century (in the sense ‘being aware of wrongdoing’): from Latin conscius ‘knowing with others or in oneself’ (from conscire ‘be privy to’) + -ous.
And the usage of the word, “consciousness” doesn’t appear until 100 years later. In any conversation about consciousness, we might keep in mind that the current societal consensus often propagated by modern science, and other powerful voices in the culture, making claims that consciousness is an effect caused by brain function, is itself an idea made possible through consciousness. True or not, I see no reason to make dogmatic claims, when by necessity, all-knowing, awareness, sentience, identity and agency come through states of being more or less conscious.
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When attempting to use language to qualify, define and determine the existence of whether there could be the making of a conscious mind within technological devices designed by a human mind, the understanding of the nature of language itself comes to the fore. We might first ask, what is meant by Artificial Intelligence?
- the theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks that normally require human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.
Artificial intelligence seems like an attempt to recreate the human mind in a human world. Although the creation of AI devices can be justified as ways of making human life better (easier, more secure, safer), the goal of creating an artificial mind can also be seen as a deep underlying desire to:
- Be the creator, prove that the human mind can be recreated or simulated
- Reduce the human mind to that of mere mathematics, reasoning and logic sans feeling and emotion
- Surpass the potential of the human mind by creating something better; more superior (less emotion?)
But I don’t think there’s any comparison between human and non-human beings. It’s a category mistake to think so. So, what then is the difference?
As much as we have found ways to replicate and simulate bodily senses, parts and functions, useful as the technology is, these replications are not, and never will be made of the same stuff; derived by organic means and processes; a bio genesis . Although the language we frequently use to talk about human functioning has recently incorporated metaphors that come from the making and design of computers, we are fooled by metaphors at our own risk.
We’re not “wired,” or “programmed,” with a mind that can be reduced to mathematical computations and algorithms. And although there are theories, we still have no idea how consciousness, brain and many bodily systems actually work. Yes, we know enough to do some pretty complex surgeries, kill bacteria with chemicals, and measure all bodily systems that can be measured, but none of these organic structures have been biologically recreated from anything other than existing organic tissue.
Dead things/Live things
Humans have developed elaborate ways to classify things. A mind that uses language to translate reality into concepts, ideas, patterns and mathematical formulas and calculations becomes almost too good at these feats. Too good, in that we humans so easily mistake what is translated into language as the totality of reality. To function in ordinary day-to-day life, we must do this! But, we needn’t be fooled by the technology of language any more than any other technology. No matter how clear we use language, we are never able to put into words all that the world, or any given moment, place or thing is. The use of language, by its very nature, requires abstracting, separation, joining, inclusion and exclusion. Language can only ever approximate reality.
Many of the primary distinctions that we make through language, do though, become deeply ingrained and assumed in our perceptions of the world. Categorizing things into either dead or living is just one example. But this primary metaphor of the nature of life might be the first philosophical and ontological mistake we make. For we know not of what lies beyond the limits and perceptions of our mind/body experience. We can, and do, however get glimpses into a much greater expanse of mind through the variety of experiences we have. It’s also quite probable that we have yet to scratch the surface of human potential through the expansion of conscious experience.
Because I am much more inclined to want to further the potential of our organic experience, including that of an expansion of mind and its potential of non-locality, I see AI, and much of its current use, as a distraction away from the much more interesting landscape of the untapped potential of mind.
AI, while in many ways providing lots of material benefits to our existence, keeps the emphasis on material existence. Much of its current use is unfortunately aimed at commercial enterprise, entertainment and furthering the isolation of each of us, by eliminating the necessity of humans. If we are essentially One, by the nature of a primary, inherent mind that permeates the whole of reality – the realization of such, and the furthering of our potential as individuals understood as an expression of the One – will need to be valued and attended to.
Threshing with threshing flails
The human experience is a whole-body phenomena that incorporates its environment and relationships into its awareness and perceptions. AI, even with the development of software programs that try to replicate any particular organic intelligence, will always be at the mercy of human design. If that limitation were ever to be overcome without human intervention, we might wonder about AI consciousness. Human intelligence does not rely on a set of programs using if/then, algorithmic computations stored away in some memory drive inside the brain. It’s much more complicated than that (See below for resources).
We moderns are brain-centric. We identify the brain with a large chunk of who and how we are, often at the expense of the totality of the body. Our perceptions are chunky, and we often fail to see continuity because we mistake our limited perceptions for something called reality. My plea here? Let’s not turn our attention away from our amazing humanity and its potential by trying to replicate a simplistic version of a perfected and immortal self that will never be anything more than a reflection of what and who we are now.
The computer can beat the human at chess, but does it care?
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They haven’t got a clue to what is in the brain, how could they understand sentience. They have it within themselves but fight the existence of its driver, the spirit within.
I think they will enjoy their games of having great minds to create a robotic chess master, but wait till they have to get their AI to understand the concept of love or the smell of a flower…they don’t even understand within themselves truly 😀
Great post, thank you for reminding me to just go for a walk and catch up with my friends and smile with them because I’m happy…and not text them with a happy icon <3
Thankyou Mark for your comment and giving me a little giggle… we’ll meet you out in the countryside with a smile! Maybe we can give each other a wild flower too. Much love to you, Barbara x
It would be received with a smile and the love it was given my friend. Namaste 😀 xo
Thanks so much for your note. From what I have heard, there’s a lot of resistance to ideas outside the accepted paradigm, especially if you want your projects funded.
I try to remind myself that thankfully, no one can take away from us what we know from direct experience.
I agree with you Debra AI is a tool that will be used against us not for us. And those far fetched futuristic films which are created will not be far off the mark if some people in some quarters will have their way,
I agree with what Mark says..
A very interesting read,
Thank you Barbara for sharing..
Wishing you love and Blessings
Thanks sue for your thoughts on this matter… I know for sure our free ebook will help people think about it all and make a choice one way or another❤️ much love to you x
I appreciate Debra’s careful consideration here, and she always seems to get to the heart of matters which appears to me a bit effortless on her part, and meanwhile, I enjoy the way her writing stimulates my thinking and often the desire to ponder further. Barbara you really illuminate with such a thoughtful prompt. I’d imagine I’d be composing my thoughts on this subject for years to come, if only the moments for us online and everywhere weren’t so fleeting. I wanted to make haste and leave a little note here in consideration for all your (both and all) works and contributions to inquiries of depth and discovery! I also long to be in the countryside, sharing flowers…
Debra is truly receptive to her stream of consciousness that inspires us all to awaken on our journey. Thankyou for your radiant presence, so much appreciated😘much love to you x
Fascinating and thoughtful exploration of mind, language, consciousness .. I shall be exploring Debra’s blog, and thank you Barbara for introducing Debra… the concentric circles of blogging are
a miracle in themselves, and I often marvel at the way the old saying birds of a feather flock together even applies to a technology like the internet !!!